dk
MemberSuper PredatorAug-23-2018 3:18 PMYes, I'm feelin' it!
G. H. (Gman)
AdminSuper PredatorAug-23-2018 5:52 PMBut what's the budget? Is that a large enough opening to make back its expenses?
dk
MemberSuper PredatorAug-23-2018 7:15 PMGood question G. H. (Gman) . It seems noteworthy that we have not seen tons of trailers like with AC, thus keeping costs down. I get the feeling somehow that Shane Black is doing things right- fairly quiet yet giving just enough to pique interest.
ignorantGuy
MemberJungle HunterAug-23-2018 10:11 PMG. H. (Gman) well the more interesting question would be how does this fare in China? Will it be shown in cinemas there?
This movie is more hyped than Predators and it only is expected to make 30 mil? The last one made 24 (27 if we adjust with inflation) in it's opening weekend. Judging by the trailers and the several re-shoots I would not be surprised that this would have costed 70+ million, but it could make 3 times it's cost world wide being a minor success.
ignorantGuy
MemberJungle HunterAug-23-2018 10:15 PM G. H. (Gman) Also in China, it will hurt that there is no big Hollywood name in it. For example, the Meg made 120 mil there because of Statham...
dk
MemberSuper PredatorAug-24-2018 12:15 AMignorantGuy I have no proof but I think Predator will crush Predators. The re shoots only took a couple days from what I read. It might cost a few bucks if there is a high profile cameo. The international market is another consideration as well like you stated. I would imagine a respectful showing based on the name alone.
Movies like this never seem to be huge money makers, but I think this one will do better than most. I cannot prove it but I just think there is a demand for something like this and fans will latch on to it.
Xenotaris
MemberElder PredatorAug-24-2018 2:28 AMI'll believe when i see it
Membrane
MemberBloodedAug-24-2018 6:03 AMIf they can really get audiences into this through the development of the humans characters and they haven't shown everything on The Ultimate Predator, (and other "standards" like a balance of good action and story), I imagine this should do what they are tracking/projecting.
Honestly though, how in the world do they track/project an opening weekend? Ticket sales so far and some statistical analysis? I always wondered about the people who are definitely going to see this, but haven't purchased tickets yet... how would they be factored in.
ignorantGuy
MemberJungle HunterAug-24-2018 6:43 AMMembrane Of course using some statistical model, but it probably takes into account other movies in the same genre, the month of the year, maybe competition. Ticket pre-orders might play a factor, but I don't think is really that relevant. Do they already know exactly in which theaters will it open?
G. H. (Gman)
AdminSuper PredatorAug-24-2018 10:32 AMignorantGuy
"Do they already know exactly in which theaters will it open?"
Yes. Long since been a done deal.
dk
MemberSuper PredatorAug-24-2018 1:25 PMI would think ticket preorders would count as long as they are ordered for one of those days.
BigDave
MemberFugitive PredatorAug-24-2018 2:44 PMI dont think the Predator Franchise has had as big a Disappointment in Terms of expectations on them, compared to what they delivered, be that Box Office $$$ and Critics :) :(
I dont think the Predator Franchise has suffered as much degradation with the AVP Movies as the Xenomorphs/Alien had.
So i think this has the potential to make Money, i think any opening Weekend and Week, when compared to Budget, i think this Movie should do FINE.
Looking at the Cast, and how its much easier to Portray a Predator on Screen as far as Special Effects and Budget
Predators took just SHY of $25M on its opening weekend and so made back about 60% of its Budget. $40M
I expect The Predator to do just as well (plus inflation) and so i could expect about that $28-30M Mark. As for the Budget, we cant be sure but i would expect it would be around $60-70M Mark
G. H. (Gman)
AdminSuper PredatorAug-25-2018 11:21 PMRemember, in order for the film to just break even it needs to make 2-2.5x its budget worldwide. It's not as simple as merely making up what the movie cost. It'd be nice to have a number to root for. If the movie did cost $70 million it's got to haul in $140-175 million before the studio considers it a success.
ignorantGuy
MemberJungle HunterAug-25-2018 11:36 PMG. H. (Gman) yeah, Alien Covenant made 2.5x its budget and the expected sequel is in limbo. Maybe it is important to not divide/generate hate from the fandom...
Gavin
MemberSuper PredatorAug-27-2018 1:12 PMLet's be honest here,
So far the build-up to this movie's release has been plagued with justified negativity from the fanbase and an evident lack of faith from the studio (reshoots, entire narratives and characters dropped, remaining narrative recycled from previous installments, delayed marketing), add the public perception of this movie, which is best summed up in one word - "meh" and then ask if we can honestly expect this movie to hit the magic $300 million marker in box office earnings.
Movies like this, Solo, RoboCop (2014), Terminator: Genisys, Ghostbusters (reboot), The Mummy, Justice league etc. should never have been green-lit. When are studios going to learn that behind every good movie is a good story, a good script - studios need to stop throwing money at franchises and give them the due care and attention.
dk
MemberSuper PredatorAug-27-2018 11:05 PMI have observed a generally positive vibe from the forum. As far as being a major blockbuster- I hope it, but I have doubts just because these movies don't seem to have mass appeal. That does not mean it will not break even. I cannot shake the feeling that this will be pretty damn good.
Gavin
MemberSuper PredatorAug-28-2018 6:16 AM@ dk,
Yeah, we are trying to keep coverage of The Predator positive, because the movies receiving enough negativity elsewhere (also why I've not covered any news on it in a while), the truth is this movie is facing an uphill struggle to make the money it needs to at the box office. We all hope the negativity is wrong but experience tells us to expect the worse. Either way, we'll find out when the first reviews and weekend figures come in in two weeks time.
BigDave
MemberFugitive PredatorAug-28-2018 4:56 PMIts like i said before i dont think the Predator Franchise has as big a Negative Buzz about it, i dont think the AVP Franchise Damaged the Predator Franchise as much as it did the ALIEN one, by that Damage to the Xenomorph compared to the Predators. The Predator Franchise has mainly been just about these Space Hunters.... where as the Alien Franchise as also about Ripley etc.
I dont know how much the Budget was but i do expect the Predator to hit past $200M and i would assume that would be considered a Success. If the Budget is sub $70M Mark.
I dont think it has as big a BUZZ as Prometheus did when it hit the Box Office as a lot of folk would have seen that as Ridley Scotts return to the Alien Universe and i feel that contributed to a lot of interest to make it $400M
But i think Predator Fans are going to be more interested in this Direction of the next Movie, after the 2010 Predators, than i would say Alien Fans would be after Alien Covenant.
So what i am trying to say is i can see more Good Reason for Predator Fans to be Optimistic for this movie and Predators made just over 3X its Money back and i do think The Predator would Perform similar...
